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Poster: snojon Date: Jun 8, 2010 6:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Drums>Space anyone ?

these drum space sequences usually run between 10 and 20 minutes. when making a CD off the archives. I usually edit it down to 5 or 10 minutes just to keep the flow of the show. sometimes there can be some wonderful passages in this segment, other times it contains the boys making some boring weird noises. I just can't stand those commercial releases where they fade in and out of the drums or space right when it seems like they're about to take off.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Jun 8, 2010 5:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Drums>Space anyone ?

I'm a world music and experimental music buff so it was sometimes about the most interesting part of the show, though I must admit too much of pure drums was boring even with talking drums and huge huge kit called the Beast.

Guests included Hamza el Din, Olatunji, Gyuoto Tantric Choir, with experimental musical instruments (a journal in N Cali at that time) and oversized balaphons. And of course, The Beam, a very long monochord played with pipes and gun shells and heavy electronics-processed. It was even featured in a museum show along with Partch instruments and so forth.

Garcia and the others got to stretch out for Space and it was cool to see what would come out of it. It could be inspired and resolve a good trip or often just miss like the rest of the show. But then how many came for the show?

I think that Mickey and another Dead person picked up the whole idea for The Beast/The Beam also completely from Francisco Lupica:
http://www.virtualvenice.info/music/francisco.htm

Michael Stearns had a cool album from a Beam installation in LA. See also for Huxley and Lavelle info http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2004/12/star-trek-female-orgasms-and.html

I'd also say that at times the visuals mattered quite a bit -- see the video "So Far" for archetypal mid-80s visuals. Later early fancy graphics were occasionally provided by SGI people called the Raster Masters.

My fave drums/space is Red Rocks 9-7-85, the one going into Dr Mr Fantasy, for both the balafon, Beam (esp), and the guitars.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd85-09-07.sbd.miller.18102.sbeok.shnf

I also like 11-22-85 Harvest Festival at Kaiser because of the 6 foot berimbaus.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1985-11-22.sbd.miller.77404.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: spacedface Date: Jun 8, 2010 6:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Drums>Space anyone ?

more on the Beam from others:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&;pageID=2&threadID=61147&archive=0

Mickey Hart on
Grateful Dead Hour #12 and #13
Weeks of November 21 and 28, 1988
http://www.trufun.com/gdhour/GDH01-52.notes.html

This post was modified by spacedface on 2010-06-09 01:35:39